Rogelio, I do realize that you are not supportive of the issue of identity as a primary factor on decision-making but we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. It's fine to disagree, that is the whole point of democracy and our First Amendment. To date, I see no compelling evidence from your comments that sways my opinion.
For example, it is impossible to use demographics to establish anti-POC bias in our earliest slaves on the continent. It's impossible to use demographics in similar situations of coercive racism in other parts of the world. The Hazara in central Afghanistan are Muslim, like the Taliban but practice Shia Islam but are treated as POC in the US systemically. Humans are not born with racism, they are enculturated, and this becomes part of their overall identity. The only exception is, the role of epigenetics, which the jury is still out on.
If you only look at racism from a US perspective and don't go far deeper, it is easy to come to the conclusions you are emphasizing. Pure science cannot account for much of what we understand about identity and its impact on human behavior. Narrative is both art and science. This is why AI and other purely technological efforts to influence humans will fail in both accuracy and predictability. As for voting the party line, this is precisely identity, not demographics. In fact, the demographics you mention are a product of identity. Case-in-point, historical Southern Democrats are now the MAGA crowd. Identity is the same, but the party is different.
As for patriotism, the insidious FOX influencers have cultivated over nearly 30 years, a completely false sense of patriotism in their viewers, that don't speak to our founding values or classical patriotic notions. Their identity is sadly set unless there are personal major events in their lives that prompt reevaluation. This is not likely though.
Thank you for this Rogelio, you have just made my case for me. Demographics are but one small piece of identity and have almost no control over our decision-making. Only understanding narrative and by association, "identity" fully can you understand how humans make meaning out of those experiences. Our subconscious, for reasons of identity make the large majority of our decisions for us, NOT demographics.
In all honesty Rogelio, we've beat this topic to death and as I noted prior, we are not going to agree. I really would like to not have to continue repeating myself. As always, everyone is welcome to their own beliefs, and I respect your right to yours. I just cannot agree for reasons of first-hand operational knowledge and being a colleague of the most prominent of Narrative Scholars, globally, Ajit Maan, PhD and CEO/ Founder of our Think and Do Tank, Narratives Strategies. https://www.narrative-strategies.com/
Rogelio, you are confusing yourself. Demographics are not as you described. NI/ Narrative Identity is what saves our lives in most situations because we typically and subconsciously default to preprogrammed responses built into our identity.
Now and as I previously indicated, I see absolutely no reason to continue debating this issue. Uniforms and jerseys are not demographics. If there were evidence to your points, you would have shared it. As for boots on the ground, I in fact do have a great deal of experience with this and also, “when bullets are flying.” The links you have supplied actually make my case stronger, not the opposite.
I wish you well but let’s continue talking over another topic.
Please recall Rogelio that demographics are not identity. Identity is a product of every human being's development and only based on perception, not truth.
Rogelio, I do realize that you are not supportive of the issue of identity as a primary factor on decision-making but we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. It's fine to disagree, that is the whole point of democracy and our First Amendment. To date, I see no compelling evidence from your comments that sways my opinion.
For example, it is impossible to use demographics to establish anti-POC bias in our earliest slaves on the continent. It's impossible to use demographics in similar situations of coercive racism in other parts of the world. The Hazara in central Afghanistan are Muslim, like the Taliban but practice Shia Islam but are treated as POC in the US systemically. Humans are not born with racism, they are enculturated, and this becomes part of their overall identity. The only exception is, the role of epigenetics, which the jury is still out on.
If you only look at racism from a US perspective and don't go far deeper, it is easy to come to the conclusions you are emphasizing. Pure science cannot account for much of what we understand about identity and its impact on human behavior. Narrative is both art and science. This is why AI and other purely technological efforts to influence humans will fail in both accuracy and predictability. As for voting the party line, this is precisely identity, not demographics. In fact, the demographics you mention are a product of identity. Case-in-point, historical Southern Democrats are now the MAGA crowd. Identity is the same, but the party is different.
As for patriotism, the insidious FOX influencers have cultivated over nearly 30 years, a completely false sense of patriotism in their viewers, that don't speak to our founding values or classical patriotic notions. Their identity is sadly set unless there are personal major events in their lives that prompt reevaluation. This is not likely though.
Thank you for this Rogelio, you have just made my case for me. Demographics are but one small piece of identity and have almost no control over our decision-making. Only understanding narrative and by association, "identity" fully can you understand how humans make meaning out of those experiences. Our subconscious, for reasons of identity make the large majority of our decisions for us, NOT demographics.
In all honesty Rogelio, we've beat this topic to death and as I noted prior, we are not going to agree. I really would like to not have to continue repeating myself. As always, everyone is welcome to their own beliefs, and I respect your right to yours. I just cannot agree for reasons of first-hand operational knowledge and being a colleague of the most prominent of Narrative Scholars, globally, Ajit Maan, PhD and CEO/ Founder of our Think and Do Tank, Narratives Strategies. https://www.narrative-strategies.com/
Rogelio, you are confusing yourself. Demographics are not as you described. NI/ Narrative Identity is what saves our lives in most situations because we typically and subconsciously default to preprogrammed responses built into our identity.
Now and as I previously indicated, I see absolutely no reason to continue debating this issue. Uniforms and jerseys are not demographics. If there were evidence to your points, you would have shared it. As for boots on the ground, I in fact do have a great deal of experience with this and also, “when bullets are flying.” The links you have supplied actually make my case stronger, not the opposite.
I wish you well but let’s continue talking over another topic.
Please recall Rogelio that demographics are not identity. Identity is a product of every human being's development and only based on perception, not truth.
What you are describing is conscious thought. Our NI/ Narrative Identity makes most of our decisions for us... subconsciously.