Based on what I am reading it would seem that the party not in power, who lost the election or is very emotionally upset about the legitimacy of the election, would be an extremist movement with a potentially violent extremist wing.
My question is: If the Republicans take back the house and senate in 2022 and the presidency in 2024 and the Left Wing of the Democrat Party acts in similar fasion would they be considered a national security threat?
It's a fair question Rusty. My opinion is that the more extreme wing of the Democratic Party, has relatively little influence in the party as a whole and little, demonstrable inclination towards violence, politically.
On the other hand, today's Republican party is entirely dominated by its extremist or rather Trump wing.
The difference is that the more radical edge of the left can't even get progressive legislation out of committee in Congress. What the right, dominated by extremists, produce is obstructionist, extreme in content and anti-American values, like Trump himself.
I'm always up for learning, so if you have evidence to the contrary, please do share.
I was trying to give you the benifit of the doubt but saying that you are being objective and not choosing sides does not seem to be clear in my eyes.
Maybe I'm missing something but it seems that within the past few years several Left wing legislators have encouraged aggressive action and/or violence toward Trumper's, police, and state governments. Maxine Waters is one that comes to mind. Public attacks on Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Bret Kavanaugh.
To shed some light on my thoughts, I have always though Trump was an A$$40le but I felt he was able to support congress in some sensible tax laws, economic and foreign policies. I went to the grocery for the first time in a couple of years and saw that the price of bacon had gone from what used to be $2.99 to $8.99. I was stunned. I am not advocating for revolution but when people get hungry, feel oppressed by government policies, and can't trust the media (as you insinuate as a purpose for this blog) revolution can be a possibility. Gas prices are not to my liking either.
As far as the right wing being obstructionists, that is not a negative thing. For either party, stopping legislation that their party doesn't believe in is the legislators duty. Thats enough for now, I've got to go to a soccer game.
Rusty, I always appreciate hearing dissenting opinions. My opinions though are not based on an opinion or political ideology. Everything I have said here is supported by credibly sourced truth. It's literally what I do for a living.
You may have missed my comment that said something along the line of; left wing fringe or to the extreme positions have no chance of being implemented by congress. Trump's tax cuts are only of value to the elite and have cut our much-needed tax revenue dramatically. There are plenty of serious economic analysts from the finest firms and universities that will support my opinion.
When it comes to inflation, had the Trump White House adopted even half of the 69-page playbook left by the last administration in the NSC, National Security Council for managing pandemics, inflation and price-gouging by corporations would be having less of an impact. Gas prices for example, are due to Wall Street and Big Oil gouging the public and in support of production limits set by OPEC, including Russia.
Still, you have not addressed the inexcusable issue of national security threats due to the former POTUS's actions. This was my world for a career. It's not something that I am speculating on.
If you have any evidence to the contrary and from a credible source, I am more than happy to listen.
What you have repeated in your comments, is a right-wing narrative that fails under close inspection of the facts. I'm not advocating here for the left. Again, you must have missed my intro to this article. I'm advocating for a nation of laws that supports ours and our allies' national security.
It is one of our biggest failings as a nation that everyone defaults to their preferred political leanings rather than dealing with the topic at hand, from an informed position. In this case, I have embedded links throughout this article to fill in any perceived blanks.
Please see the evidence and like me, divorce yourself from your political identity.
Rusty - sorry for this niggle after Paul's comprehensive response, but - let's get facts straight. The average price of bacon hasn't seen $2.99 since the late 1990s. Average price in 2017/ 2018/ 2019 was $5.77/ $5.47/ $5.61. It's now $7.30. The increase we saw in 2021/ 2022 totals 25% [not 300%!! ($2.99 to $8.99)].
Leftist violence in this country was driven by a combination of the global decolonization movement of the mid-20th century and the Vietnam war. Anyone with actual adult memories of these things passed mandatory retirement age some time ago.
There are various laughable efforts by right wing media to gin up a leftist boogeyman, the silliest in recent memory being John Sullivan, the lone "Antifa" member who videoed the death of Ashli Babbitt. He had been ejected from every protest group in the Pacific northwest and his brother James is a member of the Proud Boys.
That being said, the U.S. *IS* headed for civil conflict. The parameters are clearly explained in Barbara F. Walter's How Civil Wars Start. If the Republican party in its current form, that being an alliance of what Ayn Rand would have referred to as looters and moochers, should contrive to subvert the will of the people, the 70% of Americans not onboard with having policy driven by Qanon fever dreams *will* become a national security threat.
But not to the United States, because the already troubled American Experiment will have been pronounced dead at that point.
Based on what I am reading it would seem that the party not in power, who lost the election or is very emotionally upset about the legitimacy of the election, would be an extremist movement with a potentially violent extremist wing.
My question is: If the Republicans take back the house and senate in 2022 and the presidency in 2024 and the Left Wing of the Democrat Party acts in similar fasion would they be considered a national security threat?
It's a fair question Rusty. My opinion is that the more extreme wing of the Democratic Party, has relatively little influence in the party as a whole and little, demonstrable inclination towards violence, politically.
On the other hand, today's Republican party is entirely dominated by its extremist or rather Trump wing.
The difference is that the more radical edge of the left can't even get progressive legislation out of committee in Congress. What the right, dominated by extremists, produce is obstructionist, extreme in content and anti-American values, like Trump himself.
I'm always up for learning, so if you have evidence to the contrary, please do share.
Cheers
Paul,
I was trying to give you the benifit of the doubt but saying that you are being objective and not choosing sides does not seem to be clear in my eyes.
Maybe I'm missing something but it seems that within the past few years several Left wing legislators have encouraged aggressive action and/or violence toward Trumper's, police, and state governments. Maxine Waters is one that comes to mind. Public attacks on Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Bret Kavanaugh.
To shed some light on my thoughts, I have always though Trump was an A$$40le but I felt he was able to support congress in some sensible tax laws, economic and foreign policies. I went to the grocery for the first time in a couple of years and saw that the price of bacon had gone from what used to be $2.99 to $8.99. I was stunned. I am not advocating for revolution but when people get hungry, feel oppressed by government policies, and can't trust the media (as you insinuate as a purpose for this blog) revolution can be a possibility. Gas prices are not to my liking either.
As far as the right wing being obstructionists, that is not a negative thing. For either party, stopping legislation that their party doesn't believe in is the legislators duty. Thats enough for now, I've got to go to a soccer game.
Rusty, I always appreciate hearing dissenting opinions. My opinions though are not based on an opinion or political ideology. Everything I have said here is supported by credibly sourced truth. It's literally what I do for a living.
You may have missed my comment that said something along the line of; left wing fringe or to the extreme positions have no chance of being implemented by congress. Trump's tax cuts are only of value to the elite and have cut our much-needed tax revenue dramatically. There are plenty of serious economic analysts from the finest firms and universities that will support my opinion.
When it comes to inflation, had the Trump White House adopted even half of the 69-page playbook left by the last administration in the NSC, National Security Council for managing pandemics, inflation and price-gouging by corporations would be having less of an impact. Gas prices for example, are due to Wall Street and Big Oil gouging the public and in support of production limits set by OPEC, including Russia.
Still, you have not addressed the inexcusable issue of national security threats due to the former POTUS's actions. This was my world for a career. It's not something that I am speculating on.
If you have any evidence to the contrary and from a credible source, I am more than happy to listen.
What you have repeated in your comments, is a right-wing narrative that fails under close inspection of the facts. I'm not advocating here for the left. Again, you must have missed my intro to this article. I'm advocating for a nation of laws that supports ours and our allies' national security.
It is one of our biggest failings as a nation that everyone defaults to their preferred political leanings rather than dealing with the topic at hand, from an informed position. In this case, I have embedded links throughout this article to fill in any perceived blanks.
Please see the evidence and like me, divorce yourself from your political identity.
Rusty - sorry for this niggle after Paul's comprehensive response, but - let's get facts straight. The average price of bacon hasn't seen $2.99 since the late 1990s. Average price in 2017/ 2018/ 2019 was $5.77/ $5.47/ $5.61. It's now $7.30. The increase we saw in 2021/ 2022 totals 25% [not 300%!! ($2.99 to $8.99)].
Leftist violence in this country was driven by a combination of the global decolonization movement of the mid-20th century and the Vietnam war. Anyone with actual adult memories of these things passed mandatory retirement age some time ago.
There are various laughable efforts by right wing media to gin up a leftist boogeyman, the silliest in recent memory being John Sullivan, the lone "Antifa" member who videoed the death of Ashli Babbitt. He had been ejected from every protest group in the Pacific northwest and his brother James is a member of the Proud Boys.
That being said, the U.S. *IS* headed for civil conflict. The parameters are clearly explained in Barbara F. Walter's How Civil Wars Start. If the Republican party in its current form, that being an alliance of what Ayn Rand would have referred to as looters and moochers, should contrive to subvert the will of the people, the 70% of Americans not onboard with having policy driven by Qanon fever dreams *will* become a national security threat.
But not to the United States, because the already troubled American Experiment will have been pronounced dead at that point.